Comments on: Perfect Storm Brewing for Pilots, Airline Employees, and Passengers http://www.jetwhine.com/2007/04/perfect-storm-brewing-for-pilots-airline-employees-and-passengers/ Aviation buzz and bold opinion Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:01:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: An Airline Strike at the Beginning - Jetwhine: Aviation Buzz and Bold Opinon http://www.jetwhine.com/2007/04/perfect-storm-brewing-for-pilots-airline-employees-and-passengers/#comment-13163 An Airline Strike at the Beginning - Jetwhine: Aviation Buzz and Bold Opinon Fri, 21 Sep 2007 15:48:12 +0000 http://www.jetwhine.com/?p=132#comment-13163 [...] wrote something here a few months back about the Air Line Pilots Association’s (ALPA) plan to start squeezing tighter on airline management as payback for the concessions pilots have delivered and how many airlines have failed to now [...] [...] wrote something here a few months back about the Air Line Pilots Association’s (ALPA) plan to start squeezing tighter on airline management as payback for the concessions pilots have delivered and how many airlines have failed to now [...]

]]> By: United Airlines … News You Can Use - Jetwhine: Aviation Buzz and Bold Opinon http://www.jetwhine.com/2007/04/perfect-storm-brewing-for-pilots-airline-employees-and-passengers/#comment-8249 United Airlines … News You Can Use - Jetwhine: Aviation Buzz and Bold Opinon Tue, 26 Jun 2007 15:29:11 +0000 http://www.jetwhine.com/?p=132#comment-8249 [...] few months back, I mentioned that things were about to turn ugly for the summer travel season. Scott McCartney at the Wall Street Journal seems to [...] [...] few months back, I mentioned that things were about to turn ugly for the summer travel season. Scott McCartney at the Wall Street Journal seems to [...]

]]> By: Dave Koch http://www.jetwhine.com/2007/04/perfect-storm-brewing-for-pilots-airline-employees-and-passengers/#comment-2515 Dave Koch Wed, 25 Apr 2007 15:03:44 +0000 http://www.jetwhine.com/?p=132#comment-2515 Way back there around 1979 or 1980 (this old captain's memory banks are somewhat faulty), I was part of a team of airline pilots that successfully organized all of the ALPA pilot groups into a cohesive force that was committed to shutting down the U.S. airline system for 3 days. Our goal was to preserve the 3-man crew. The first part of the plan worked! Reagan convened a presidential commission to address the issue to avoid the shutdown (this was just prior to the PATCO action). Unfortunately, we were sold out by the then ALPA president and the then UAL-MEC chairman and the commission ruled for 2-crew cockpits. But the point is, the pilots were united and, I believe, would have walked off the job. In my opinion, this kind of unity and a national seniority list could solve the airline pilot group's problems. Maybe the new leadership at ALPA will finally get it. Way back there around 1979 or 1980 (this old captain’s memory banks are somewhat faulty), I was part of a team of airline pilots that successfully organized all of the ALPA pilot groups into a cohesive force that was committed to shutting down the U.S. airline system for 3 days. Our goal was to preserve the 3-man crew.

The first part of the plan worked! Reagan convened a presidential commission to address the issue to avoid the shutdown (this was just prior to the PATCO action). Unfortunately, we were sold out by the then ALPA president and the then UAL-MEC chairman and the commission ruled for 2-crew cockpits.

But the point is, the pilots were united and, I believe, would have walked off the job.

In my opinion, this kind of unity and a national seniority list could solve the airline pilot group’s problems. Maybe the new leadership at ALPA will finally get it.

]]> By: Joe http://www.jetwhine.com/2007/04/perfect-storm-brewing-for-pilots-airline-employees-and-passengers/#comment-2103 Joe Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:25:58 +0000 http://www.jetwhine.com/?p=132#comment-2103 Pilots and Controllers groups should seriously consider walking off the job. Unlike PATCO, however, they, flight attendants and machinists shouls all stick togther and honor picket lines. Teamsters and other unions ought also do sympathy walkouts for a day or two at a time. Minus an aggressive, unified, labor walkout government and industry will continue to take advantage of labor, which has been the case since reagan broke Patco back in the 80's. Your article notes American execs are scheduled for substantial pay raises. I also recently read that Delta execs will get substantial salary and stock options as Delta exits bankruptcy. My prediction, labor lacks the cajones to seriously and uniformly confront government and industry. Until labor works together to create, to the extent legally permissible, work stoppages like french labor uses, I predict government and industry will continue to marginalize labor's ability to get a fair deal from either government or labor. Just my humble opinion. Pilots and Controllers groups should seriously consider walking off the job. Unlike PATCO, however, they, flight attendants and machinists shouls all stick togther and honor picket lines. Teamsters and other unions ought also do sympathy walkouts for a day or two at a time.

Minus an aggressive, unified, labor walkout government and industry will continue to take advantage of labor, which has been the case since reagan broke Patco back in the 80’s.

Your article notes American execs are scheduled for substantial pay raises. I also recently read that Delta execs will get substantial salary and stock options as Delta exits bankruptcy. My prediction, labor lacks the cajones to seriously and uniformly confront government and industry. Until labor works together to create, to the extent legally permissible, work stoppages like french labor uses, I predict government and industry will continue to marginalize labor’s ability to get a fair deal from either government or labor. Just my humble opinion.

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