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	<title>Comments on: Why Airline Industry Unions Will Never Die</title>
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		<title>By: Dave Koch</title>
		<link>http://www.jetwhine.com/2007/05/why-airline-industry-unions-will-never-die/#comment-4424</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Koch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 15:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob,

You are certainly "right on" with your evaluation of the management-pilot/controller situation.

I was working in the top levels of both United Airlines management and ALPA through the deregulation transition years (1978 - 1985).  I was on the pilot's side, but I have to hand it to management--they figured out how to very effectively put it to the pilots.

Of course, management just did, and continues to do, what the dynamics of a deregulated industry and the new corporate culture require. No matter how onerous their actions are, they are doing what their BODs and Wall Street demand (and what they can get away with).

In my opinion, it was the ALPA leadership that lost the battle for the pilots. The pilots could have won the battle if they had simply stuck together, gone to a national seniority list and established through negotiation industry-wide standard pay scales.

My hope is that the swinging pendulum will start moving in the other direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob,</p>
<p>You are certainly &#8220;right on&#8221; with your evaluation of the management-pilot/controller situation.</p>
<p>I was working in the top levels of both United Airlines management and ALPA through the deregulation transition years (1978 - 1985).  I was on the pilot&#8217;s side, but I have to hand it to management&#8211;they figured out how to very effectively put it to the pilots.</p>
<p>Of course, management just did, and continues to do, what the dynamics of a deregulated industry and the new corporate culture require. No matter how onerous their actions are, they are doing what their BODs and Wall Street demand (and what they can get away with).</p>
<p>In my opinion, it was the ALPA leadership that lost the battle for the pilots. The pilots could have won the battle if they had simply stuck together, gone to a national seniority list and established through negotiation industry-wide standard pay scales.</p>
<p>My hope is that the swinging pendulum will start moving in the other direction.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
		<link>http://www.jetwhine.com/2007/05/why-airline-industry-unions-will-never-die/#comment-4391</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 16:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are so many problems that the FAA has "messed" with NATCA over, too many to list here, you would be better served to visit the former NATCA President's Weblog: www.themainbang.typepad.com/

Thanks for some union truths!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are so many problems that the FAA has &#8220;messed&#8221; with NATCA over, too many to list here, you would be better served to visit the former NATCA President&#8217;s Weblog: <a href="http://www.themainbang.typepad.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.themainbang.typepad.com/</a></p>
<p>Thanks for some union truths!</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 14:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I underestimated the scope of the problem?

When I even mentioned the possibility of a deeper problem with NATCA a few months ago, a few of the folks from the union tried to hand me my head.

But you're right there in the thick of things, I believe. Can you tell us a bit more detail about the problems you think air traffic controllers and the union are facing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I underestimated the scope of the problem?</p>
<p>When I even mentioned the possibility of a deeper problem with NATCA a few months ago, a few of the folks from the union tried to hand me my head.</p>
<p>But you&#8217;re right there in the thick of things, I believe. Can you tell us a bit more detail about the problems you think air traffic controllers and the union are facing?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.jetwhine.com/2007/05/why-airline-industry-unions-will-never-die/#comment-4268</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 04:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for the inclusion of NATCA.  If anything you underestimate the dificulties facing controllers and our Union.  Great article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the inclusion of NATCA.  If anything you underestimate the dificulties facing controllers and our Union.  Great article.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.jetwhine.com/2007/05/why-airline-industry-unions-will-never-die/#comment-4265</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 23:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice job. Proud NATCA member here. Thanks for the mention and understanding of our situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice job. Proud NATCA member here. Thanks for the mention and understanding of our situation.</p>
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		<title>By: AArecallUS</title>
		<link>http://www.jetwhine.com/2007/05/why-airline-industry-unions-will-never-die/#comment-3966</link>
		<dc:creator>AArecallUS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 04:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a fight for our jobs at American Airlines,  Please visit this blog http://trustno1-1.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a fight for our jobs at American Airlines,  Please visit this blog <a href="http://trustno1-1.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://trustno1-1.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: B N Sullivan</title>
		<link>http://www.jetwhine.com/2007/05/why-airline-industry-unions-will-never-die/#comment-3927</link>
		<dc:creator>B N Sullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 22:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking as a psychologist who actually does specialize in aviation (as a researcher, not as a therapist/counselor) I agree that you have got it exactly right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking as a psychologist who actually does specialize in aviation (as a researcher, not as a therapist/counselor) I agree that you have got it exactly right.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy Molitor</title>
		<link>http://www.jetwhine.com/2007/05/why-airline-industry-unions-will-never-die/#comment-3921</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy Molitor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 21:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, this is so clear and well written, its obvious that shrink you live with has done her job! Great story!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, this is so clear and well written, its obvious that shrink you live with has done her job! Great story!!</p>
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