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		<title>By: Whose Side Was Past ALPA Duane Woerth On? - Jetwhine: Aviation Buzz and Bold Opinon</title>
		<link>http://www.jetwhine.com/2007/10/airline-pilots-and-the-rest-of-us/comment-page-1/#comment-19369</link>
		<dc:creator>Whose Side Was Past ALPA Duane Woerth On? - Jetwhine: Aviation Buzz and Bold Opinon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of you might recall a post from a few months back in which I expressed disdain that former ALPA president Duane Woerth had in a Letter to the Editor [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Robert Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.jetwhine.com/2007/10/airline-pilots-and-the-rest-of-us/comment-page-1/#comment-15843</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 05:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry but I don&#039;t understand your question.

I&#039;m honestly not beholden to Cessna in any way. They simply believed in the new media aviation connection enough to be involved.

And while I agree that business aviation as a whole should be more involved in the training of new pilots - and I&#039;ve told the NBAA folks that - I think you need to find a better candidate to pick on than Cessna.

These people have developed the Cessna Pilot Center program with King Schools 30 years ago that half the country uses to teach people to fly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry but I don&#8217;t understand your question.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m honestly not beholden to Cessna in any way. They simply believed in the new media aviation connection enough to be involved.</p>
<p>And while I agree that business aviation as a whole should be more involved in the training of new pilots &#8211; and I&#8217;ve told the NBAA folks that &#8211; I think you need to find a better candidate to pick on than Cessna.</p>
<p>These people have developed the Cessna Pilot Center program with King Schools 30 years ago that half the country uses to teach people to fly.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Erickson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Erickson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 03:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Jetwhine is sponsored in part by a grant from Cessna Aircraft Company&quot;   and who might you be beholden to? 

Biz av has exploded over the past few years and seems to have less to do with the training of future airline pilots than it used to.  For many, its a much better job than the airlines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Jetwhine is sponsored in part by a grant from Cessna Aircraft Company&#8221;   and who might you be beholden to? </p>
<p>Biz av has exploded over the past few years and seems to have less to do with the training of future airline pilots than it used to.  For many, its a much better job than the airlines.</p>
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		<title>By: Norman Rhodes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norman Rhodes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 05:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Tiz easy to slam the door behind you and forget from whence you came. Better by far to poke your boot in the door and help ease a few more through - maybe take the occasional peek past the crack to refresh the memory. We have far more to lose than gain by being selfish, and greed rots you from within.

Happy trails fellow aeronauts....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Tiz easy to slam the door behind you and forget from whence you came. Better by far to poke your boot in the door and help ease a few more through &#8211; maybe take the occasional peek past the crack to refresh the memory. We have far more to lose than gain by being selfish, and greed rots you from within.</p>
<p>Happy trails fellow aeronauts&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: GeraldZ</title>
		<link>http://www.jetwhine.com/2007/10/airline-pilots-and-the-rest-of-us/comment-page-1/#comment-14727</link>
		<dc:creator>GeraldZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The advertising banner at the top of the page reads:

THE CESSNA CARAVAN
Venture With Confidence

This may not be an appropriate time for such advertising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The advertising banner at the top of the page reads:</p>
<p>THE CESSNA CARAVAN<br />
Venture With Confidence</p>
<p>This may not be an appropriate time for such advertising.</p>
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		<title>By: GeraldZ</title>
		<link>http://www.jetwhine.com/2007/10/airline-pilots-and-the-rest-of-us/comment-page-1/#comment-14726</link>
		<dc:creator>GeraldZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fly for a regional 4 days per week and very rarely do I hear a corporate jet on the radio.  And they are seldom seen at O&#039;Hare.  This is just a ploy for airlines to shift costs.

Airlines are short-sighted in calling for users fees.  Fees will only drive up the cost of flight training and exacerbate the pilot shortage problem.  Which, from my perspective, may be a good thing for commercial pilots.

I wouldn&#039;t expect much common sense from Mr. Woerthless.  There&#039;s a reason ALPA membership booted him out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fly for a regional 4 days per week and very rarely do I hear a corporate jet on the radio.  And they are seldom seen at O&#8217;Hare.  This is just a ploy for airlines to shift costs.</p>
<p>Airlines are short-sighted in calling for users fees.  Fees will only drive up the cost of flight training and exacerbate the pilot shortage problem.  Which, from my perspective, may be a good thing for commercial pilots.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t expect much common sense from Mr. Woerthless.  There&#8217;s a reason ALPA membership booted him out.</p>
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		<title>By: Wes Leighton</title>
		<link>http://www.jetwhine.com/2007/10/airline-pilots-and-the-rest-of-us/comment-page-1/#comment-14679</link>
		<dc:creator>Wes Leighton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 23:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely correct. As an air traffic controller, son of a retired UAL captain, and brother of a Jet Blue captain,  we have this discussion frequently. 

And we all agree that the airlines and to some extent, ALPA, are not helping their long term cause. Maybe that is why a some pilots are going the expat route and flying overseas. 

The money is substantally better, work enviroment is not hostile. It just exacerbates the pilot shortage coming down the road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely correct. As an air traffic controller, son of a retired UAL captain, and brother of a Jet Blue captain,  we have this discussion frequently. </p>
<p>And we all agree that the airlines and to some extent, ALPA, are not helping their long term cause. Maybe that is why a some pilots are going the expat route and flying overseas. </p>
<p>The money is substantally better, work enviroment is not hostile. It just exacerbates the pilot shortage coming down the road.</p>
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