Comments on: Mr. Know-It-All Confronts Jetwhine Readers http://www.jetwhine.com/2008/04/mr-know-it-all-confronts-jetwhine-readers/ Aviation buzz and bold opinion Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:17:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Darryl Swanson http://www.jetwhine.com/2008/04/mr-know-it-all-confronts-jetwhine-readers/#comment-34500 Darryl Swanson Fri, 30 May 2008 23:02:42 +0000 http://www.jetwhine.com/2008/04/mr-know-it-all-confronts-jetwhine-readers/#comment-34500 Some Will Say That The Concord Was The Fastest Civilian Aircraft Ever Produced, And Some Will Say That it Was The Russian Built TU-144. If The TU-144 Was Actually Used For Civilian Purposes, It Would Have Been The Fastest Civilian Jet. Building an Airliner In a Country Without God, Proved To Be Building an Airplane That Was Just Not Safe. The Concorde Truly Was The Fastest Civilian Aircraft. The Fastest Civilian Aircraft To Produce a Profit For its Manufacturer is The Cessna Citation 10, Which Has Already Produced a Profit For Cessna. The Fastest Civilian Airliner (Used By Public Service Airlines) is/Was The Boeing 707. While Some do Not Realize, The Boeing 707 Had a Top Speed in the .9 Ranges of Mach. The Boeing 707 Had a Common Cruise Speed of Over 600 Miles Per Hour, And Airlines Ended Up Putting out Requests For "Slower-Jets" For Their Shorter Routes. Consequently, Boeing Has Never Produced another Civilian Aircraft That is as Fast As Their 707 was/is. Darryl Swanson Some Will Say That The Concord Was The Fastest Civilian Aircraft Ever Produced, And Some Will Say That it Was The Russian Built TU-144. If The TU-144 Was Actually Used For Civilian Purposes, It Would Have Been The Fastest Civilian Jet. Building an Airliner In a Country Without God, Proved To Be Building an Airplane That Was Just Not Safe. The Concorde Truly Was The Fastest Civilian Aircraft. The Fastest Civilian Aircraft To Produce a Profit For its Manufacturer is The Cessna Citation 10, Which Has Already Produced a Profit For Cessna. The Fastest Civilian Airliner (Used By Public Service Airlines) is/Was The Boeing 707. While Some do Not Realize, The Boeing 707 Had a Top Speed in the .9 Ranges of Mach. The Boeing 707 Had a Common Cruise Speed of Over 600 Miles Per Hour, And Airlines Ended Up Putting out Requests For “Slower-Jets” For Their Shorter Routes. Consequently, Boeing Has Never Produced another Civilian Aircraft That is as Fast As Their 707 was/is.

Darryl Swanson

]]> By: Rob Mark http://www.jetwhine.com/2008/04/mr-know-it-all-confronts-jetwhine-readers/#comment-30559 Rob Mark Fri, 18 Apr 2008 21:01:55 +0000 http://www.jetwhine.com/2008/04/mr-know-it-all-confronts-jetwhine-readers/#comment-30559 You guys are so picky. "Was" in production, "is," in production, good grief. What I meant to say was what has been - now or before - the fastest airplane ever used in air service in thw world (Boy I hope I covered all the bases). And that's why the Concordski as Steve Perry point out first is the winner. Unless of course one of you can find one more loophole for me to fall into that is. Rob You guys are so picky. “Was” in production, “is,” in production, good grief.

What I meant to say was what has been - now or before - the fastest airplane ever used in air service in thw world (Boy I hope I covered all the bases).

And that’s why the Concordski as Steve Perry point out first is the winner.

Unless of course one of you can find one more loophole for me to fall into that is.

Rob

]]> By: Bob H http://www.jetwhine.com/2008/04/mr-know-it-all-confronts-jetwhine-readers/#comment-30552 Bob H Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:53:24 +0000 http://www.jetwhine.com/2008/04/mr-know-it-all-confronts-jetwhine-readers/#comment-30552 The supersonic Tu-144 and Concorde were the two fastest passenger aircraft flown to date. Officially, the world's fastest jet-powered aircraft remains the SR-71 Blackbird. Although the official record is about Mach 3.3 (or 3.3 times the speed of sound), many believe the aircraft could actually fly much faster. Here are some more facts to date: Boeing 747 605 mph. Fastest operating commercial jet. Citation X 607 mph. Fastest business jet. Tupolev Tu-114 545.07 mph world record. Fastest turboprop transport. Tupolev Tu-144 1,553 mph. Fastest supersonic passenger jet. P180 Avanti 460 mph. Fastest FAR 23 certified turboprop. The supersonic Tu-144 and Concorde were the two fastest passenger aircraft flown to date.

Officially, the world’s fastest jet-powered aircraft remains the SR-71 Blackbird. Although the official record is about Mach 3.3 (or 3.3 times the speed of sound), many believe the aircraft could actually fly much faster.

Here are some more facts to date:

Boeing 747 605 mph. Fastest operating commercial jet.

Citation X 607 mph. Fastest business jet.

Tupolev Tu-114 545.07 mph world record. Fastest turboprop transport.

Tupolev Tu-144 1,553 mph. Fastest supersonic passenger jet.

P180 Avanti 460 mph. Fastest FAR 23 certified turboprop.

]]> By: Zach Grant http://www.jetwhine.com/2008/04/mr-know-it-all-confronts-jetwhine-readers/#comment-30479 Zach Grant Thu, 17 Apr 2008 02:09:58 +0000 http://www.jetwhine.com/2008/04/mr-know-it-all-confronts-jetwhine-readers/#comment-30479 Cessna Citation X is currently the fastest aircraft in passenger service. The Concord was prior to its retirement. Cessna Citation X is currently the fastest aircraft in passenger service. The Concord was prior to its retirement.

]]> By: John Mahany http://www.jetwhine.com/2008/04/mr-know-it-all-confronts-jetwhine-readers/#comment-30478 John Mahany Thu, 17 Apr 2008 02:05:24 +0000 http://www.jetwhine.com/2008/04/mr-know-it-all-confronts-jetwhine-readers/#comment-30478 B-747, MMO .90 Mach B-747, MMO .90 Mach

]]> By: Phil McElrath http://www.jetwhine.com/2008/04/mr-know-it-all-confronts-jetwhine-readers/#comment-30477 Phil McElrath Thu, 17 Apr 2008 02:03:48 +0000 http://www.jetwhine.com/2008/04/mr-know-it-all-confronts-jetwhine-readers/#comment-30477 Passenger service. Commercial service? MD-11. Business? Citation10 Passenger service. Commercial service? MD-11.
Business? Citation10

]]> By: Norman http://www.jetwhine.com/2008/04/mr-know-it-all-confronts-jetwhine-readers/#comment-30426 Norman Tue, 15 Apr 2008 16:53:06 +0000 http://www.jetwhine.com/2008/04/mr-know-it-all-confronts-jetwhine-readers/#comment-30426 'is' or 'was' Rob? ‘is’ or ‘was’ Rob?

]]> By: Adam Webster http://www.jetwhine.com/2008/04/mr-know-it-all-confronts-jetwhine-readers/#comment-30425 Adam Webster Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:51:08 +0000 http://www.jetwhine.com/2008/04/mr-know-it-all-confronts-jetwhine-readers/#comment-30425 Snippy Canadian sez: READ THE QUESTION. The answer for "commercial" passenger service is the Boeing 747 and derivatives. (0.885 Mach) For Part 135 and 91 Subpart K ops (private travel for the more shi shi amongst us.. hardly considered "Passenger Service" but alas.. that is more of a sociologists domain...) it is the Citation X per Robert's first answer. (0.92 Mach) Question: What *is* the fastest aircraft *used* in passenger service on the planet? The only answer can be the fastest current use aircraft. Both the Concordski and the Concorde were a far cry from viable commercial service anyway, so I would disqualify them as not being commercial aircraft. (Commercial implies that you can make money with it.) And by the same measure.. Brian Binnie w/ Scaled & SpaceShipOne (per Annie above) and the Russians with their tourist operation also handily beat the 747. But again... no one is making money there yet. Oh wait.. as of last night.. all the airlines are in the red again. (Except the chosen few.) Snippy Canadian sez: READ THE QUESTION.

The answer for “commercial” passenger service is the Boeing 747 and derivatives. (0.885 Mach)

For Part 135 and 91 Subpart K ops (private travel for the more shi shi amongst us.. hardly considered “Passenger Service” but alas.. that is more of a sociologists domain…) it is the Citation X per Robert’s first answer. (0.92 Mach)

Question: What *is* the fastest aircraft *used* in passenger service on the planet?

The only answer can be the fastest current use aircraft. Both the Concordski and the Concorde were a far cry from viable commercial service anyway, so I would disqualify them as not being commercial aircraft. (Commercial implies that you can make money with it.)

And by the same measure.. Brian Binnie w/ Scaled & SpaceShipOne (per Annie above) and the Russians with their tourist operation also handily beat the 747. But again… no one is making money there yet.

Oh wait.. as of last night.. all the airlines are in the red again. (Except the chosen few.)

]]> By: Robert Mark http://www.jetwhine.com/2008/04/mr-know-it-all-confronts-jetwhine-readers/#comment-30415 Robert Mark Tue, 15 Apr 2008 02:13:14 +0000 http://www.jetwhine.com/2008/04/mr-know-it-all-confronts-jetwhine-readers/#comment-30415 Actually no ... I lied about the prize. It's a pair of wire snippers and 1,000 American Advantage miles. Darned smart alecky readers! Actually no … I lied about the prize. It’s a pair of wire snippers and 1,000 American Advantage miles.

Darned smart alecky readers!

]]> By: Jeff martin http://www.jetwhine.com/2008/04/mr-know-it-all-confronts-jetwhine-readers/#comment-30414 Jeff martin Tue, 15 Apr 2008 02:01:46 +0000 http://www.jetwhine.com/2008/04/mr-know-it-all-confronts-jetwhine-readers/#comment-30414 What's the prize from Southwest? A crash helmet? What’s the prize from Southwest? A crash helmet?

]]> By: Annie http://www.jetwhine.com/2008/04/mr-know-it-all-confronts-jetwhine-readers/#comment-30394 Annie Mon, 14 Apr 2008 19:08:14 +0000 http://www.jetwhine.com/2008/04/mr-know-it-all-confronts-jetwhine-readers/#comment-30394 What about paying passengers on several space flights? Doesn't that count? *g* What about paying passengers on several space flights? Doesn’t that count? *g*

]]> By: Robert Mark http://www.jetwhine.com/2008/04/mr-know-it-all-confronts-jetwhine-readers/#comment-30393 Robert Mark Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:52:28 +0000 http://www.jetwhine.com/2008/04/mr-know-it-all-confronts-jetwhine-readers/#comment-30393 Ah and we have a winner already. Darned Google ... or did you know that one Steve? The correct answer was the TU-144, a bit of a Concorde look alike. Sorry Robert. But ... since the Citation 10 IS the fastest civilian airplane still in production today, I'm going to call that pretty darned close. You both win. Please e-mail me at rob@jetwhine.com with some contact info and say, "Southwest," or "Cessna." Rob Ah and we have a winner already. Darned Google … or did you know that one Steve?

The correct answer was the TU-144, a bit of a Concorde look alike.

Sorry Robert. But … since the Citation 10 IS the fastest civilian airplane still in production today, I’m going to call that pretty darned close.

You both win.

Please e-mail me at rob@jetwhine.com with some contact info and say, “Southwest,” or “Cessna.”

Rob

]]> By: Robert http://www.jetwhine.com/2008/04/mr-know-it-all-confronts-jetwhine-readers/#comment-30391 Robert Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:24:19 +0000 http://www.jetwhine.com/2008/04/mr-know-it-all-confronts-jetwhine-readers/#comment-30391 I think that would be the Cessna Citation X? I think that would be the Cessna Citation X?

]]> By: Steven Perry http://www.jetwhine.com/2008/04/mr-know-it-all-confronts-jetwhine-readers/#comment-30388 Steven Perry Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:01:18 +0000 http://www.jetwhine.com/2008/04/mr-know-it-all-confronts-jetwhine-readers/#comment-30388 TU-144 Concordski! TU-144 Concordski!

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