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	<title>Comments on: DOT Aviation Advisors Missing the Point</title>
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		<title>By: Dale Kettring</title>
		<link>http://www.jetwhine.com/2009/11/dot-aviation-advisors-missing-the-point/comment-page-1/#comment-105218</link>
		<dc:creator>Dale Kettring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please excuse me.

I meant to ask how the new instructions impact Mr. LaHood&#039;s panel?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please excuse me.</p>
<p>I meant to ask how the new instructions impact Mr. LaHood&#8217;s panel?</p>
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		<title>By: Dale Kettring</title>
		<link>http://www.jetwhine.com/2009/11/dot-aviation-advisors-missing-the-point/comment-page-1/#comment-105215</link>
		<dc:creator>Dale Kettring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 13:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I note that Mr. LaHood&#039;s advisory panel includes several &quot;advisors&quot; from industry, including airlines.  That being the case, how does the new instructions to remove most industry &quot;advisors&quot; from those panels?

See the article at:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/26/AR2009112602362.html?hpid=topnews</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I note that Mr. LaHood&#8217;s advisory panel includes several &#8220;advisors&#8221; from industry, including airlines.  That being the case, how does the new instructions to remove most industry &#8220;advisors&#8221; from those panels?</p>
<p>See the article at:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/26/AR2009112602362.html?hpid=topnews" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/26/AR2009112602362.html?hpid=topnews</a></p>
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		<title>By: Stephen R.</title>
		<link>http://www.jetwhine.com/2009/11/dot-aviation-advisors-missing-the-point/comment-page-1/#comment-104747</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you say Frank Lorenzo???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you say Frank Lorenzo???</p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.jetwhine.com/2009/11/dot-aviation-advisors-missing-the-point/comment-page-1/#comment-104723</link>
		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember way back when UAL bought the Westin or Western hotels.

My dad, a UAL employee asked, &quot;what do they know about the hotel business?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember way back when UAL bought the Westin or Western hotels.</p>
<p>My dad, a UAL employee asked, &#8220;what do they know about the hotel business?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen R.</title>
		<link>http://www.jetwhine.com/2009/11/dot-aviation-advisors-missing-the-point/comment-page-1/#comment-104686</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may want to go back to the late seventies when Airline deregulation took place and view what happened there, it allowed the Corporate raiders to disassemble the entire industry that has yet to fully recover. I would venture to say that what has been already said here is that there are some who lack honor, integrity, and respect. Time to get wise, as they say!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may want to go back to the late seventies when Airline deregulation took place and view what happened there, it allowed the Corporate raiders to disassemble the entire industry that has yet to fully recover. I would venture to say that what has been already said here is that there are some who lack honor, integrity, and respect. Time to get wise, as they say!!</p>
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		<title>By: Bernard</title>
		<link>http://www.jetwhine.com/2009/11/dot-aviation-advisors-missing-the-point/comment-page-1/#comment-104675</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An excellent article that hits the nail right on the head.  Huge difference between defining the problem and solving it however.  Not only aviation of course but numerous other interest groups are being adversely affected by the cancer that is growing in our government.  Unless these groups join in a concerted effort apathy will continue to allow the scoundrels to flourish.

The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public&#039;s money.  -- Alexis de Tocqueville 1835</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An excellent article that hits the nail right on the head.  Huge difference between defining the problem and solving it however.  Not only aviation of course but numerous other interest groups are being adversely affected by the cancer that is growing in our government.  Unless these groups join in a concerted effort apathy will continue to allow the scoundrels to flourish.</p>
<p>The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public&#8217;s money.  &#8212; Alexis de Tocqueville 1835</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen R.</title>
		<link>http://www.jetwhine.com/2009/11/dot-aviation-advisors-missing-the-point/comment-page-1/#comment-104508</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have it somewhere and I&#039;ll dig it up, it was in 1985</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have it somewhere and I&#8217;ll dig it up, it was in 1985</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.jetwhine.com/2009/11/dot-aviation-advisors-missing-the-point/comment-page-1/#comment-104505</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had not heard of this story in BC&amp;A before Stephen. Any idea when that might of run?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had not heard of this story in BC&#038;A before Stephen. Any idea when that might of run?</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.jetwhine.com/2009/11/dot-aviation-advisors-missing-the-point/comment-page-1/#comment-104496</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen, Scott.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen, Scott.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.jetwhine.com/2009/11/dot-aviation-advisors-missing-the-point/comment-page-1/#comment-104493</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Product liability is a symptom of a national avoidance of personal responsiblity. In all aspects of life, not just aviation, when something doesn&#039;t go our way, or when it comes time to pay the consequences of something we&#039;ve done, the solution is to not take responsibility for our decision but to blame it on someone else, and to get money for it, which ties right back into the insurance industry, which is where this conversation began.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Product liability is a symptom of a national avoidance of personal responsiblity. In all aspects of life, not just aviation, when something doesn&#8217;t go our way, or when it comes time to pay the consequences of something we&#8217;ve done, the solution is to not take responsibility for our decision but to blame it on someone else, and to get money for it, which ties right back into the insurance industry, which is where this conversation began.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Ruby</title>
		<link>http://www.jetwhine.com/2009/11/dot-aviation-advisors-missing-the-point/comment-page-1/#comment-104484</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Ruby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You neglected to mention the sad but true Product Liability issue that plagued manufacturers in the mid-80&#039;s and the lawyers who won absurd lawsuits with anything General Aviation. 

Let&#039;s look at for example,the wife who sued Beechcraft for $285 Million dollars in 1985...and won!! She claimed the manufacturer was at fault for her husbands death in a Beech Debonair that he flew into IMC without an instrument rating. 

Then Russ Meyer of Cessna in the same time-frame claims product liability was the cause for Cessna to shut down all single engine assembly. Not true, that was the result of poorly manufactured fire-walls that Cessna somehow over looked and was the subject of an
article written in Business and Commercial Aviation. 

The shut-down affected 80,000 airplanes from the 172 to the brand new Turbo Centurion. The advocate aviation attorney Arthur Alan Wolk certainly was behind GA, right??

The FAA should be a separate entity and not part of DOT, they neither have the fortitude or manpower to deal with all the bureaucratic madness that plagues our industry. When a new Beech Baron G58 goes out the door for something like $1.2 Million. 

We need to look who is the benefactor for the survival of GA, and it is not the DOT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You neglected to mention the sad but true Product Liability issue that plagued manufacturers in the mid-80&#8242;s and the lawyers who won absurd lawsuits with anything General Aviation. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s look at for example,the wife who sued Beechcraft for $285 Million dollars in 1985&#8230;and won!! She claimed the manufacturer was at fault for her husbands death in a Beech Debonair that he flew into IMC without an instrument rating. </p>
<p>Then Russ Meyer of Cessna in the same time-frame claims product liability was the cause for Cessna to shut down all single engine assembly. Not true, that was the result of poorly manufactured fire-walls that Cessna somehow over looked and was the subject of an<br />
article written in Business and Commercial Aviation. </p>
<p>The shut-down affected 80,000 airplanes from the 172 to the brand new Turbo Centurion. The advocate aviation attorney Arthur Alan Wolk certainly was behind GA, right??</p>
<p>The FAA should be a separate entity and not part of DOT, they neither have the fortitude or manpower to deal with all the bureaucratic madness that plagues our industry. When a new Beech Baron G58 goes out the door for something like $1.2 Million. </p>
<p>We need to look who is the benefactor for the survival of GA, and it is not the DOT.</p>
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