Aviation’s Favorite Blog Jetwhine Welcomes A Real Expert … Mr. Know It All
By Robert Mark on January 30th, 2008Hello Jetwhine readers. Today we’re going to light up those little capillaries inside your cranium. 
You all think you’re so smart don’t you? Well, here’s your chance to prove how much you know about aviation, general aviation specifically today.
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First the prize … a copy of Robert Mark’s new book, a Professional Pilot Career Guide, goes to the person who correctly answers this question.
“What aircraft was also known as a Mescalero?”
Sorry, no hints. We’ve been chastised for making these too easy anyway.
Put on those thinking caps and start typing ASAP and a copy of this awesome new book could well be yours. And no, there is no truth to the rumor that this author’s wife has made threatening remarks about his future on Earth if he fails to rid their basement of all the boxes of these volumes there gathering dust.
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January 30th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
Mescalero – AKA T-41 which is the military version of the Cessna 172.
IFIRC, its the same airplane except that the > T-41 comes with 180hp vs the 160hp in the 172.
How’s that for being a know it all? :^o
January 30th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
Man oh man. You guys didn’t even let me finish lunch before you came up with the correct answer.
I’m going to talk to my friends at Southwest Airlines.
Now those folks know how to develop questions!!
Why not send me a private e-mail Rick to rob@jetwhine.com with your mailing address and Mr. Know it All will ship you a book.
Thanks for playing.
January 31st, 2008 at 11:05 am
Hey Rob, is it the Cessna 172?
January 31st, 2008 at 11:06 am
Cessna T41A Mescaralo US Air Force basically a Cessna 172
January 31st, 2008 at 11:07 am
The Cessna T-41 was the Mescalero
January 31st, 2008 at 11:08 am
The cessna T-41 was also known as the Mescalero
January 31st, 2008 at 11:09 am
The Mescalero was/is a Cessna made for the Air Force. Designation is T41.
January 31st, 2008 at 11:10 am
Cessna T-41 Mescalero, a modified 60’s vintage C-172 built to the specifications of the USAF for usea as a pilot screening and aeroclub airplane. It had differing horspower depending on the model suffix.
January 31st, 2008 at 11:11 am
Dear Mr. Mark:
The Mescalero is (was) the military version of the trusty C-172.
January 31st, 2008 at 11:12 am
That would be the USAF version of the C-172 Skyhawk – used for UPT screening
PS I cheated and used google.
January 31st, 2008 at 11:23 am
You maybe already have a winner, but the Mescalero is a Cessna T-41
January 31st, 2008 at 11:27 am
Military Cessna 172 is also know as Mescalero
January 31st, 2008 at 11:58 am
Cessna t-41 trainer…(172)
January 31st, 2008 at 1:35 pm
OK, OK … so you’re all really smart.
How about if one of you give me a couple of quiz questions or two that everyone can’t figure out with Google?
You know, the old fashioned way … it’s stored somewhere in your gray matter …!
January 31st, 2008 at 1:41 pm
Ok, Rob, you’re on! Will see if I can come up with anything…
January 31st, 2008 at 1:49 pm
So here’s the deal you guys – generically of course – if one of you comes up with a really great blog question, Jetwhine will offer some really nifty prize that you can’t live without.
And if you stump everyone, you win a free subscription to Jetwhine too.
Now how’s that for a deal?
January 31st, 2008 at 2:59 pm
T-41, military trainer version of the Cessna 172
February 6th, 2008 at 5:05 pm
I was intrigued by your query about the Mescalero.
That was Cessna’s off-the-shelf trainer for the Army, the T-41B, which was a more-or-less stock R172 Reims Rocket, a 172 powered by a Skymaster’s IO-360 Continental.
February 6th, 2008 at 5:08 pm
Now there’s something I certainly didn’t know.
The Mescalero had a Skymaster engine in it? That’s 210 HP I think.
That think woould go vertical with a single person I bet.
February 8th, 2008 at 8:04 am
OK, looks like it’s time to clear up several misconceptions about the US military’s use of the ubiquitous Cessna 172.
There were essentially four models of the 172 purchases by the US military:
T-41A: 242 bought by USAF in 1964-70 (some were delivered to other countries under MAP). Delivered with 145 hp O-300-D engine
T-41B: 255 purchased by US Army in 1966-67 (some delivered to other countries under MAP). Its 210 hp IO-360D with constant speed prop makes it a snappy 172! Lots of other Army-specific mods that make it a very nice package and hardly a stock 172 of any kind (it’s official Cessna nomenclature is R172E).
T-41C: 52 purchased by USAF strictly for use at the USAF Academy at mile-high Falcon Field. Used the 210 hp IO-360-D with a fixed pitch prop (later mod included a barometric-sensing mixture control for those high-alt takeoffs).
T-41D: 317 delivered by foreign air forces, although only 218 had USAF s/n assigned.
While a USAF pilot in ATC in a prior life, I flew the A, B and C models (flying the B was a ferry mission for the Army). I also was one of the original cadre of five USAF IPs who set up the Flight Screening Program at Hondo, TX, in 1973. When I left Hondo in 1976, I was the Chief of Standardization/Evaluation for the program.
I am also the author of “Cessna Warbirds” and co-author of “T-41 Mescalero” .
-Walt
February 8th, 2008 at 8:06 am
Oh, one more thing. Officially, the only T-41 ever designated the Mescalero by the US military was the Army T-41B (goes with the other Army Indian-tribe names for aircraft).
However, we in the USAF unofficially adopted that name in lieu of any official USAF designation.
-Walt
June 8th, 2009 at 12:39 am
The T-41B was the second aircraft that I ever flew after getting my private pilot license in a C-150 while a member of the Ft. Lee Flying Club. They had two T-41B aircraft, N31FL and N33FL and they we quite a jump from a C-150. In fact when I finally did fly a C-172 it was such a comedown from the constant-speed prop and 210 HP T-41B
November 4th, 2010 at 4:51 am
Hey Rob, is it the Cessna 172?